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20. RE: Methadone - can kill...but it also saves lives when used as directed
Apr 2 2008, 9:30 AM EDT
We want to hold doctors accountable for their actions from over prescribing to lethal combinations they are prescribing people. I am very passionate about my cause I want to Help America Reduce Methadone Deaths. Here in Florida we have no monitor systems for rx drugs so we are called pills state or the doctor shop state people come all over place just to get rx drugs and then turn around and sell it on the streets. You see we don’t want ban it just control it and reduce methadone deaths. I am sorry that you feel threaten by us. 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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21. RE: Methadone - can kill...but it also saves lives when used as directed
Apr 2 2008, 12:18 PM EDT
I am not as kind as JP's sister and when you make remarks about my son which you have no clue what the H*** you are talking about shows your drug induced ignorance. Thank you very much for all that you have written these will be passed on to State and Federal agencies to assist in proving the behavior of many of the Pro-Methadone advocates. This will be very impressive as you and others say that Methadone allows you to live a "normal" life. So I guess you have always been ruthless, heartless and sociopathic tendencies. I have a forgiving and loving God and try to treat others as I would want to be treated. Evil seems to test my faith with personal attacks about my son. My son did not EVER use or ABUSE drugs in his life. A doctor and methadone killed my son. I I will NO LONGER respond to your pathetic rants, my energy and work deserves to be placed in other area's then talking to a wall. If this is your way of self gratification, I truly feel sorry for you. Your psychologocal behavior is very typical of an addict being terrified of their drug being taken away. Hostile, rampant attacks on sites like this one are disrespectful and hold a message of low moral values. I will take into consideration that your are on drugs and for that I will forgive you for your ludicrous remarks of my son as you are not clear minded. You may want to discuss this pattern of outrage with your counselor since it seems to be an obssession and shows a distortion of reality versus fantasy. We may just need to further evaluate the behavior pattern associated with Methadone use as MAMA is seeing a definite link here among many using this drug. Again, please talk to your medical staff at your clinic they may be able to help you cope with your hostile feelings and reduce the personal attacks on others. Your continued lashing out is not mentally healthy for yourself and may affect those around you. Mothers Against Medical Abuse. Org Helping to Stop Rx, Methadone Deaths 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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22. RE: Methadone - can kill...but it also saves lives when used as directed
Apr 2 2008, 12:40 PM EDT
Honestly I did not read every word of your last post because I was calling you ever name in the book as they seemed to fit. Until I just reposted for transfer to the proper people considering issues with this drug, again thank you for making my job easier to prove and opening the door to further look at all aspects of Methadone usage. But, I needed to tell you one more thing if you have any functioning brains cells left. There is such a thing called a Toxicology report that is done during an autopsy and that report tells the story of the victim. My son only had this drug in his system, nothing else and it was a therapeutic level yet it took his life. Again, you are only proving radical behavior and outlandish slurs, may go hand in hand with this type of addiction therapy and should be addressed to the appropriate agencies for further evaluation.Mothers Against Medical Abuse. Org 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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23. RE: Methadone - can kill...but it also saves lives when used as directed
Apr 2 2008, 2:10 PM EDT
You know the first step to healing is admitting that you or the person you loved and lost had a problem. Yes my mission was accomplished. I wanted you to feel the rage I felt as I read each of you posts to me that were not understanding or educational in any way and only succeeded at making fun of my disturbed mental state and berating and ridiculing everything about me and everything that ever happened to me. When I opened up to you and actually thought that you MAY be able to teach me something, and opened up in the longest post I posted, and gave you every oppotunity as a Christian and Human to say something nice OR be halfway sympathetic--you simply again posted with your ridicule and put downs. In the longest post I wrote I even said I could never imagine the pain you had gone through losing your son, because as parents the hardest thing in life and our biggest fear is that we may have to bury a child. I showed you empathy and you responded with nothing but ugly, EVIL, remarks. So your damn right when I then reposted I was out to get you. And guess what! Now I don't give a flying damn damn about your cause, don't care what you could teach me, and don't think you have anything to offer to society or to the people you pretend to be wanting to get this "so-called" message out to. Let me ask you? If you are so concerned about getting the message out would someone whose taking 170mg a day not be worth your time to tell a few of your "facts" to? And then maybe I would've looked further into it . But you have no intentions of being even half way sympathetic to an addict, because your son wasn't one and you do not know the pain of addiction so you are superior, correct? Even JP's sister and what seems to be his neice(I'm not sure) left sympathetic posts, but each time you were given an opportunity you just wanted to sling insults at me. And OF COURSE when someone hears off the bat how stupid, incoherrant, ignorant, etc,
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24. RE: Methadone - can kill...but it also saves lives when used as directed
Apr 2 2008, 2:26 PM EDT
and how clouded their judgement and blah blah blah, they will feel attacked and automatically not listen. Lady if you are TRULY interested in saving peoples lives and saving people from this drug--you'd better stop discriminating against addicts or potential addicts and not only want to help the people who may take it "exactly as prescribed, and not mix anything else with it". Because let me tell you, there ain't many of those people out there and if those are the only ones you're out to help then you should just stop now, since you do seem to have such an evil outlook on addicts. I want to say THANK YOU to the creators of this site ie the family members of JP. I think you all are doing a wonderful thing with this site and think you can touch and reach a lot of people out there with it. Not only in your state but everywhere. There is NO way I would ever tell anyone they should begin taking methadone. Especially not for pain. In an addiction case, maybe. But only once they knew of every danger it holds. It is killing people and unfortunately people like the MAMA.org lady she is to discriminate against addicts to care, she doesn't even know the power she could have if she could just stop slinging nasty insults at people for two seconds. However, I've never felt put off by the creators of this site and I thank you for that. Because every person who takes methadone should be aware of the risk it holds. Whether someone dies from abusing it or not, I apologize to rememberjp for the comments I left that were disrespectful. When someone attacks my character, state of mind, etc. it pisses me off so I attack back. She should take a few human psycology classes and then try to reembark on her quest to help people, because she has no people skills what so ever. To all those who've lost a loved one, I pray for you. I thankfully have both of my sons, but that is my biggest fear in life. Thank you all and God Bless You, Christy Sivley 0 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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25. RE: Methadone - can kill...but it also saves lives when used as directed
Apr 2 2008, 2:38 PM EDT
I just went back and read one of your replys, after my longest post and you said quote "if all that happened to you you probably do need to stay on drugs for the rest of your life" I think I start a website to educate people on the hate, evil and ignorance you spew out of your heart. You are a sad pathetic excuse for a Christian for sure, but especially for someone who trying to educate people about drugs. Oh that's right, people who are addicts, no one cares if they die right? They aren't a pristine and perfect as the loved one you lost, is that it? Only people who aren't addicts deserve to be saved from the dangers of methadone? And when you forward those emails on, be sure to send your responses along with them, so they can see what a hard, callous woman you are!
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26. RE: Methadone - can kill...but it also saves lives when used as directed
Apr 2 2008, 6:36 PM EDT
Christy, I only come back after remarks were said first. Please take the time to re-read your remarks. If and when you truly want facts and are willing to accept the facts as documented truth I am willing to talk to you. But your on again, off again kindness, then asking for help but turn to defend Methadone makes it difficult. FIrst you must be willing to realize we are not doing this because we lost someone. I do this so no one else has to feel this pain and maybe someones life can be saved from dying well before they should have. You do not seem to understand that I am a well educated person with almost 5 years of college in psychology and nursing. My oldest son is battling addiction and just went into rehab this past Monday. I am also a pain management patient and suffer from an incurable disease. So you see I know exactly what I am talking about not just because of my education but also what life has dealt me. I am one of the most well liked people you will ever meet but many of the Por-methadone advocates leaves nasty remarks, many similar to what you have said here. One finally gets tired of the crap. So if you really want help and understanding, it is available for you. MAMA.Org 1 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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27. RE: Methadone - can kill...but it also saves lives when used as directed
Apr 3 2008, 4:37 AM EDT
Up early, can't sleep. First off, I want to know why this site and the people who've pasted away from it, is weighing so heavy on my mind and heart. And yes ma'am, I knew you were an educated woman from the first time I read your post to MMTsaveslives or whoever. But have you even completely read through any of my posts? I have read every word you have written but it seems you've not read mine all the way through. If you had, you would have surely picked up on me throwing a white flag in my second & longest post, but you came back with bitter insults. I Thank You for finally showing you are human and have compassione. I really, Whole heartedly appreciate that. Maybe I'm here looking for information, guidance, help, I dunno what really. But please don't always assume that because someone comes off a certain way that they can't be helped. Because that siply is not true. I know that I am contradictory, some days I am overly defensive, as you are maybe. But please, regardless of anything else said, accept my apology and know that my heart truly breaks for people like you who've lost someone to this. It's got to be especially hard knowing it's something that's out there every day harming people. I guess the reason I assume everyone mixes it with something is because of the people I have to stand in line and listen to at my clinic. It just seems like everyone of them are mixing their "done" as they call it, with xanax or alcohol or something. And most of them don't even want treatment, they are there for a cheap, inexpensive high. However, after a while for us it has gotten very expensive. I really would like to know why this site has struck such a cord for me. In some ways it seems like I'm Pro-methadone and some ways I am Anti-methadone. It just seems like I encounter so many people who don't really want treatment, they just want to get high. And this definately is not the drug to be doing that with.
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28. RE: Methadone - can kill...but it also saves lives when used as directed
Apr 3 2008, 4:51 AM EDT
I've gone on long enough and can barely sit here, but maybe the two sides could help each other if they would listen to one another. I don't know if that is possible, but I know there would be many more people who might listen-you know what. We lived down the street from some, now college age boys, we recently moved, but they are absolutely so careless with this and other drugs (we were best friends with their grandparents is how we knew them so well) it scares me to death to think how all kids that age look at this drug. They think it's just like a Lortab or Percocet. And most of them are ingesting it and know absolutely NOTHING about it. And from the college kids I've seen in Tuscaloosa at that clinic, they are just babies. Even the people at they clinic I go to, the median age of everyone there is probably 22 to 34. And almost everyone of them have no clue as to what they are taking. Not because the information isn't there for them (at our clinic we have wonderful counselors) but because they don't care and just want a way to get high. Oh well, I've rambled long enough. I do Thank you for your last post. It made me see a woman who has been through a tremendous amount of pain and who is trying to make a positive impact. I would like to talk to you about something else in a future post though. If I'm not mistaken, isn't your organization against doctors who are basically drug dealers? I may have misinterpreted the name, I'm sorry if I did. There was a doctor in Fayettevill, TN that we used to go to that absolutely was a licensed drug dealer. I even reported him to the TN Bur. Of Investigation and he is still in practice. But anyway, I check back tomorrow and see if you've posted. Again, thank you for your kindness and understanding, Christy Sivley
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29. RE: Methadone - can kill...but it also saves lives when used as directed
Apr 3 2008, 5:00 AM EDT
I JUST THOUGHT OF SOMETHING. The reason I don't want to admit that people could possibly die from methadone alone is because that scares the crap out of me, and makes me wonder if it could happen to me!!!! That is why I've been so defensive about everything when people have loved ones who've passed from it alone. HA!! Nirvana! Or Kazuntike! Or what ever it is when you say you've had a revelation! That is exactly what it is. It makes my "perfect solution" not so perfect if this has really happened to people and that's why it bothers me so bad. Hey, you never know, I could end up being an Anti-methadone spokesperson one day. You never know. That is absolutely why this site has gotten to me so much. I t scares the crap out of me to think that I could lay down to take a nap one day after dosing and not wake up. I'm glad I figured that out. I think this is a wonderful website. And God Bless those who created it. Well, I have to go fix my husband's breakfast and lunch for work, so I hope you all have a wonderful day and God Bless You All! Christy Sivley
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30. RE: Methadone - can kill...but it also saves lives when used as directed
Apr 3 2008, 1:28 PM EDT
Hi Christy, I too stay up all night, some from physical pain and emotional pain. I agree with you, their are some people who do benefit from Methadone but like you said there are so many that abuse it. What really upsets me is the health care groups that are taking advantage of people with addiction just to make money and could truly care less about the people they are suppose to be servicing. I have never been opposed to addiction treatment and somehow MAMA.org gor smeared all over the Methadone forums. Even the Driving After Dosing Program is not targeted at the addicts but the clinics that are not treating their patrons in the best medical practice. They are a medical facility and should operate as one, offering the best advantages to recovery. Unfortunately, the majority do not and that plus many other issues is what has happened. Knowing what I know now, I do fear for many on this drug. Through our research we found many, many drugs that should never be taken (increases the risk) with Methadone but the doctors never tell you about this, that makes me mad, you have the right to know. These are even antibiotics, anti-depressants and others. I am against the drug companies you mislead so many medical professionals and people in this country that causes death and despair. I blame the addiction problem in this country on drug companies and doctors, not people. I am sure you did not wake up one day and say, I think I will become an addict. The people that are suppose to be the experts are doing a terrible dis-service to us. I take pain medicine everyday. I was on Duragesic patch 25 mcg X 3 days for four years until last summer when I got really overdosed from the patch. Thought it was afluke and applied a different one the following day, it happened again. It scared me so bad I never put another one on, I should have had horrible withdrawals but i didn't, guess I was lucky. I reported this to my pharmacy, I was told they see this with all patches, wow. will cont
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31. RE: Methadone - can kill...but it also saves lives when used as directed
Apr 3 2008, 1:34 PM EDT
Sorry ran out of room, A few months ago the drug companies recalled these patches because of a defect in the construction. I could have died from that defect. Evidently they were aware of the dangers and should have recalled long before they did, but they would have lost millions billions of dollars. We as human beings tend to trust the so called experts like doctors and others. My job is to bring awareness to the possible dangers then if someone wants to take that chance, it is their choice and risk to be taken. That is what MAMA.org is all about. Take care, Blessings with a hug, Nancy
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32. RE: Methadone - can kill...but it also saves lives when used as directed
Apr 6 2008, 8:20 PM EDT
Hey Nancy, I'm sorry it's taken me so long to respond. We had bad weather for a couple days and our internet goes out everytime the wind blows hard. It sounds like your organization could save tons of people from pain and suffering. It truly is unimaginable at how many doctors are actually uneducated about the medicines they prescribe. There has been many times that I've quized a doctor and I knew more about the treament or prescription than he did. It truly is a disservice these doctors and a lot of these clinics are doing to their patients they are suppose to be there to help. Here's my view on --who knows how many diseases--I think they can make trillions more by "treating" you than by curing you. If they cure you, then there's no follow up visits with lots of tests and blood work and what not, and then there's the medicines they prescribe. Which I totally believe that most doctors get kickbacks off of. These drug manufacturers-?spelling- have all of mine and your politicians in their back pockets, not to mention the presidential candidates- that's why so many were made sick from Vioxx and Celebrex and that other one, was because they had contributed to Bush's campaign and they went ahead without hardly any clinical trials and approved them to be given to the public and they knew hardly any of the problems they caused. And they didn't care either, cause hey, by the time side effects dangerous enough to cause concern comes out, they'll have already made twenty or thirty million dollars off it anyway. And that's exactly how they look at the American public- just dollar signs. I do want to say I am very sorry for hurtful things I've said to you. I know you've been through a terrible pain and hurt that words cannot even express and I commend you for trying to change the way things are done. And you're exactly right about the people that come to the methadone clinics--they are TOTALLY in the dark 1 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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33. RE: Methadone - can kill...but it also saves lives when used as directed
Apr 6 2008, 8:35 PM EDT
about the drug they ingest everyday. The counselors at my clinic are pretty good, but I was so shocked when I've come in there and showed them things I've printed out about the interactions with methadone, the side effects, etc. and they ask me can they make copies of it to be able to give it to patients. It's absolutely AMAZING the hundres of thousands of millioins that Colonial Management Group makes of their methadone clinics. However, they barely pay their counselors anything(most of them have a second job) , most of the clinics are outdated and they have no pamphlets to inform people about the medicine the dispense daily. It Toatally blows my mind at how negligent they are and it's not like they aren't making the millions it would take to do just a little bit better. But like you said, they look at us as addicts, and so what if something happens to one of them, as long as they come spend their eleven dollars a day until then. I'm very sorry that your son is battling addiction. It really can get the best of us. Like you said, I didn't wake up one day and want to be addicted, I just was. I'm sure he was the same way. Growing up I saw addiction with my father and mother and I remember people saying to my dad "Why don't you just stop!!If you'd just stop everything would be fine" and I would think to myself that as much as what he was doing was hurting others, it hurt him terribly, too and I truly believe in my soul that if he could've stopped-he would've. Same as me or anyone else, because no ones wants to go through this. I commend you for your hard work and for taking on a cause that can truly help so many others. I hope you've had a wonderful, restful, peaceful, relaxed, weekend. Again I'm sorry it took me so long to get back, I've thought about you and your sons three or four times a day every day. You really must be a very strong woman. I'll look for ya tom.'row. God Bless U 1 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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34. RE: Methadone - can kill...but it also saves lives when used as directed
Apr 6 2008, 10:46 PM EDT
"I JUST THOUGHT OF SOMETHING. The reason I don't want to admit that people could possibly die from methadone alone is because that scares the crap out of me, and makes me wonder if it could happen to me!!!! That is why I've been so defensive about everything when people have loved ones who've passed from it alone. HA!! Nirvana! Or Kazuntike! Or what ever it is when you say you've had a revelation! That is exactly what it is. It makes my "perfect solution" not so perfect if this has really happened to people and that's why it bothers me so bad. Hey, you never know, I could end up being an Anti-methadone spokesperson one day. You never know. That is absolutely why this site has gotten to me so much. I t scares the crap out of me to think that I could lay down to take a nap one day after dosing and not wake up. I'm glad I figured that out. I think this is a wonderful website. And God Bless those who created it. Well, I have to go fix my husband's breakfast and lunch for work, so I hope you all have a wonderful day and God Bless You All! Christy Sivley"Hi Christy I think this is the most honest and sensible post I have read in awhile. It is a very scary drug, in fact over 32% of the Methadone related deaths in 2004 had Methadone only in their systems. That number is staggering considering that most people on a daily basis take more then one prescription drug for blood pressure, antidepressant etc.... The numerous stories I hear on a daily basis scare the crap out me so. I no longer trust doctors or prescription drugs...after losing someone who did nothing more then seek help from a "qualified" physician, looking for that elusive promise of "methadone saves lifes". Something like this shatters your trust in the medical community and especially the FDA....I know he (my fiance, Ron) had such high hopes for Methadone, otherwise he would never have tried it. I often think what he was thinking that night he layed down to sleep in that hospital, complaining of toxic symptoms which medical personnel believed to be withdrawals...he thought he was doing the right thing, trying to get clean for me, his family, and his kids....he though he would wake up. He had such hopes for the future and was an amazing father. It's scary that you just can't seem to tell who will live and who will die from this drug...... 3 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you? |
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35. RE: Methadone - can kill...but it also saves lives when used as directed
Apr 7 2008, 1:20 AM EDT
Hi Christy,Well it is late Sunday night and some times I dread the weekdays as I have more to do and there is never enough time or energy. Thank you so much for your kind words and thoughts. I am so sorry we got off to a bad start, see we can meet in the middle. Many of us who are trying to warn people get a lot of confrontation but honestly we only want to help others. I may not be able to post very much this next week or so, but will try. My nursing license run out at the end of the month, and I have a lot to do before renewal. I also have ACLS Advanced Cardiac Life Support to renew as well. Thank goodness all this is only every two years now, it used to be yearly but they make it more work now. Your apology brought tears, thank you very much. I never thought in a millions years this is what I would be doing but the inner drive is now a passion that I have no control over. I really have never been against the person with an addiction but I get so angry at what the medical profession, drug companies and clinics have done to us. Their greed has gone above a human life. You are right on the money in your discription of how much they really lack knowledge in your care and that is so very scary. I think if these doctors and clinics would just be honest to people I could accept that atleast that allows the person to make decisions on their own. It was interesting that you said something about maybe one day being a speaker about methadone. I have had quite a few former Methadone users contact me and their stories are amazing. They talka bout how they thought it was saving their lives and then for one reason or another they wanted to stop all drugs and took that final step. Most will say that they had no clue how much their head was in a fog while on this drug and look back an recall their clinics encouraging them to stay on the Methadone. One women was such an advocate she even attended the Methadone gatherings and now has no clue who she was then. Cont. 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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36. RE: Methadone - can kill...but it also saves lives when used as directed
Apr 7 2008, 1:24 AM EDT
I always write like I talk, a lot. lol. But, to hear their stories is really a amazing. Believe me I have spent a lot of time looking into all avenues of the use and abuse of this and other drugs. I truly had no clue how big and out of control all this had become. Well, it is 1:00 AM and I still have much to do before bed. Have a great Monday and thank you for your warm thoughts, Hugs Nancy
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37. RE: Methadone - can kill...but it also saves lives when used as directed
Apr 18 2008, 11:06 AM EDT
To Christy: The title of your thread "It can save lives when used as directed" is absolutely false. My son, Matthew, age 20, went to a Methadone clinic and died from methadone toxicity; the only thing he did wrong was follow the directions of the doctor & clinic staff. The dr over-estimated his tolerance and over-dosed him. Each day Matthew went to the clinic, he complained of side effects that were far from normal; and every day the entire staff ignored him. He begged them to lower his dose or not increase it, but they did so anyway. On the 5th day, I came home from work to find my son slumped in the hallway of our home, DEAD. When I laid his body down his face was covered with purple splotches against his stark white, but handsome face. When I tried to start CPR, I could not even open his mouth to clear an airway because rigor mortis had set in. This is a scenario that no mother or parent should have to endure. I trusted the clinic when they told Matthew that his side effects were noromal; since they specialized in one medication, Methadone, I trusted that they knew the signs of Methadone toxicity and that my son's side effects may be uncomfortable, but not dangerous, and never lethal. His toxicology report proved that he had no other drugs in his system. It has been 20 months now and I live with a void in my soul and a pain in my heart I cannot bear. I am on disability from work because I have nightmares, flashbacks, no memory or concentration and cannot mentally function. I am a zombie waiting to reunite with my son. Methadone doesn't cure people, it substitues a legal drug for an illegal drug. You should be scared, even long term patients can die from methadone toxicity. I recommend you start weaning now before your family has to endure a situation similar to mine, and it sounds like there has already been too much pain. I wish you well in your recovery and will keep you in my prayers. Matthews Mom, Terri
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38. RE: Methadone - can kill...but it also saves lives when used as directed
Apr 19 2008, 4:09 AM EDT
Hi Terri,This is Nancy from Mothers Against Medical Abuse.Org and I am so touched by your story. I know of your son but had never heard the whole story and I am sorry you have that nightmare forever in your mind. Although I too lost my sweet son I was fortunate that he had gone away for a quick trip or he would have died at home, and that I could not live with as you do everyday. My heart and prayers truly go out to you. Christy has not replied and sometimes my first thought when they are frequent at making comments and then stop is did their "wonderful" Methadonr take their life too. My orgainzation is the one doing the Autopsy Research Project and we have a few cases where the victim was on therapy for a long period and suddenly became toxic and died. This is a very lethal and unstable drug and I can say in confidence that the drug companies knew how deadly this drug was when they put it back on the market. I post comments on a lot of the newspapers and the Pro-Methadone Adovcates do not like me at all. In the beginning I had an open mind to the clinical use of this drug but with further research found that the majority of these facilities are nothing more then money making legalized drug dealers. I had thought that maybe for a real small percentage of addicts it may work but that number falls short of what they are doing. I am working on my addiction page and will reveal my findings. I just makes me sick to know that these drug companies, doctors, and health care groups will put profits above a human life. Our governement supports this practice by turning a blind eye and not imposing emergency measures to stop this madness. Sorry for rambling, but this poison and a doctor killed my son. The real people behind these deaths are not being held accountable and are getting by with murder. Our lives are forever changed, I am like you as on the day my son died the greatest portion of me died too. Hugs to you, Nancy MAMA.Org 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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39. RE: Methadone - can kill...but it also saves lives when used as directed
Apr 27 2008, 3:34 PM EDT
Hi Nancy - Yes, Matthew died in the hallway of our home. Where his head was slumped forward, brownish pulmonary edema fluid drained from his mouth and left a stain on the carpet. It was 6 months before I cleaned the stain up. It was like a grave marker in our home, the very point where he died. And we have to go past that point many times, every day. I was by myself when I discovered Matthew's body (I am divorced). I thought I stayed pretty calm when I called 911, but then I called my mother next and she asked who it was, so I must have been more hysterical than I thought. This dreadful scene plays over and over in my mind. I tried posting on some of the pro-methadone websites too, but they deleted them and banished me! My posts were not angry nor did I say that I thought all of the clinics should be shut down. I just suggested that patients should be more educated before they started this method of treatment, so they can make an educated decision. They need to see the positives and the risks/negatives. We were only presented the positive side of Methadone, even in the websites that I read, so never in my worst nightmare did I think this drug was so easily fatal. Of course, now that it is too late, I have learned so much about this unstable, lethal drug. It's frustating trying to make changes and simultaneously coping with the pain of losing our sons. Our legal case goes to mediation on June 10, we'll see what happens with that part of the legalities. Love and prayers to you Nancy, Terri 3 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you? |